This week i had to write our newsletter. This was a difficult task for me, as the newsletter is quite limited in space. What started as a exhaustive review of the Morningstar Investment Conference turned into a mention of my train ride and a positive outlook on investing.
When I looked at the line up for the conference, I was excited to see Bill Gross as the keynote speaker. Its not every day that one gets to go hear the manager of $1.2 Trillion speak. Attending the keynote was even better than I expected.
Recently, Bill Gross has sold out of all US Treasuries in PIMCO’s flagship Total Return fund. This is a bit odd for a US bond fund, as treasuries are such a large, unavoidable part of the fixed income market. He attracted a lot of attention (even more than his great track record has) for this bet. The mark of a great thinker, his keynote was essentially him talking about how he could have gone wrong.
Firstly, his thesis for selling out of treasuries is roughly this:
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1. Bondholders are “not being adequately compensated for the risk they are taking.” (Interest rate and inflation risk for treasuries, + credit risk for some corporates)
2. The Fed is a major buyer of treasuries right now, to the tune of $100B a month, that is going to be reduced to $16B a month very soon. When the fed stops buying, prices should go down, yields up.
He has expressed the problem of inadequate compensation in his monthly newsletters in many ways. Most clearly, he says that savers are being “pick-pocketed” because the value of their savings are declining in real terms. Basically, if you put money in the bank, the interest rate you earn is not enough to make sure that money has the same purchasing power when you take it out. Savers are losing money to inflation.
People who hold bonds for savings and income needs will see the value of the bonds decline when interest rates rise. At such low levels, the PIMCO consensus is that they must start to go up soon, as soon as the fed stops buying in a few days.
He terms this all ‘financial repression’ and makes the bold prediction that “15 years from not I can 51% guarantee that you will have been financially repressed.”
Seeking real yield, investors and savers have had to turn elsewhere. Bill Gross promoted the foreign sovereign debt markets as a place to avoid financial repression and seek real yield. For those who prefer to keep their money closer to home, the worlds largest bond fund manager gave a shout out to dividend paying stocks. It was noted elsewhere in the conference that it is now “functionally impossible” for a large US company with a good credit rating to default and disappear. Gross suggested that the dividends represented real yield as the stock price of a large company should be at least inflationary over the long term. He even gave a nod to utilities, traditionally stable, high yielding companies which he has disparaged before.
What is going on in the world when a bond manager is promoting stocks?

Posted by jrtaff